Now don't you know if a Phil coached team is 4-0 now instead of 1-3 its great coaching, if they are 1-3 its players not doing worth a crap. Thats always been my problem with Phil. He is a legend, but he's the star of Varsity Blues. Its about him, seldom about the players. PV could turn around and end up 7-3 for all I know, but if they do, it's going to be due to the players, not due to him.